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PostSubject: Hot Air Balloon: The Debate!   Wed Mar 12 2008, 16:44

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You are all within a large hot air balloon (a muggle flying machine) over the vast sea. There is no land around for many miles and the balloon is sinking fast. You all realise that either you all sink into the depths of the water, or one person wil have to be pushed over the edge to save the rest.

It is your job to debate with the others why you think that you should stay in the
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PostSubject: Re: Hot Air Balloon: The Debate!   Thu Mar 13 2008, 20:00

Ginny fretted as she looked over the hot air balloon at the churning sea below. She didn't like this, heights were not her friend. Neither was the fear of drowning. What was the name of that phobia? The important thing was, she did not want to die. They had all just realized that one of them would have to be pushed into the sea below, or they would all sink into the water.

"I shouldn't be pushed." she started. "Because I am a profession of respect. I'm a doctor, for goodness sakes. I've gone to school for many years to obtain a degree that allows me to help people. Why would you kick me out if all I do is help people?"

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PostSubject: Re: Hot Air Balloon: The Debate!   Fri Mar 14 2008, 22:28

Stephy looked out over the basket and down towards the water that they were slowly getting closer to. She just recieved the news that one of them was going to have to be thrown overboard and even though she could swim she wouldnt be able to last long in the water. Off to her side she heard Ginny say about her being a doctor.

"I'm a Mathematician. You guys might need me later on. You can't push me over board either. I could do some math and maybe slow down the descent of the balloon to give us some more time to decide" Stephy shouted out as she pulled out a tiny notebook and pencil from her robes pocket and started to write down some numbers
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PostSubject: Re: Hot Air Balloon: The Debate!   Fri Mar 14 2008, 23:09

Violet looked over the side, afraid."You cant push me over, I might not be much, but I am a queen and I do have complete control over a country. Without me, there will be war between our families." Violet said, wondering if the others had a good idea.
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PostSubject: Re: Hot Air Balloon: The Debate!   Fri Mar 14 2008, 23:35

Emmalynn glanced over the edge of the basket. She turned to the rest of its occupants and gulped.

"Y'know, if we ever land somewhere, like an island or something, I would be the only one with the experience in building. I could build shelters, houses, things that would be essential to survive. I think I'm a pretty good asset here," she explained to the others.
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PostSubject: Re: Hot Air Balloon: The Debate!   Sat Mar 15 2008, 10:33

Gemma was trying hard to think of the reason she was here for. However, she didn't know, all she knew was that she ended up up here and know she had been told that one of them would have to die if the others were to survive. She gulped, intent on forgetting about her bad case of acrophobia and instead thinking of a better reason than the others had as to why she could not be the one who was to die.

Listening to the others' points, she did feel at loss, so she went with answering their words first.


"Ginny, I think being a doctor is a very good reason for needing to stay in here, and if I were to decide, I would never have you die, as you might be the most useful one for us. And Emmalynn, I consider your reason very well-thought-off too, but then again, there doesn't seem to be an island close by, or else we could just land on that. So while you could be useful, it might not be as much of a mistake to throw you out. As to you, Stephy and Violet, I have to say I am not sure of whether you have good reasons for staying alive alongside us others. I mean, usefulness is of most importance in situations like this, but I seriously don't believe that Maths is going to help us now. Or ever, actaually. Because even if someone isn't useful right now, they could be useful afterwards. Which is why I probably wouldn't make you die, Violet. Killing a queen is not exactly something to affirm the peace in this world, after all."

Breathing deeply after her long speech, an idea formed in her mind and she went on right away:

"And this is where I consider myself as coming into play: No matter whom we are going to throw out, we definitely are going to kill someone, and in my position in the police department, I could help with the inquiries. I could convince the officers whose case this will be that it was but an accident, so that we will all be not only alive, but also without penalties keeping us from living freely. Doesn't that sound important? Or would you rather stay alive just to live in jail soon?"
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PostSubject: Re: Hot Air Balloon: The Debate!   Sat Mar 15 2008, 10:39

Katie joined the others at the side of the basket. Maybe this trip wasn't such a good idea after all. They seemed to be falling pretty fast and she was definetly not jumping. After listening to all the other's arugemnts she was thinking that the Queen should go, anyone but her.

"Listen up! As a cook I can take almost anything and make it edible and tasty too! After a few days of being starnded up here you're going to wish you had food and thats where I come in. I can turn some of the things we do have into food so that we can survive until we see land again."
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PostSubject: Re: Hot Air Balloon: The Debate!   Sat Mar 15 2008, 10:54

She trembled as each of them spoke. They all had their own reasons for living as well. Stephy claimed she could slow a descent. But how, without any other instruments besides her paper and pen? Violet is the queen, so killing her would not be good for them if they landed anywhere near England. Emmalynn, as a carpenter, could build them a shelter if they ever landed anywhere. And there was that if. She couldn't see any islands in sight, so she might not end up being useful at all. And then there was Gemma, the police officer. She affirmed all of Ginny's beliefs about the others, and said that hse herself could ensure the survivors' safety after they had gotten safely home...and after they'd killed a companion.

"I'm agree with your points Gemma, whole-heartedly." She looked guiltily at Stephy and Emmalynn and muttered an apology. "And I do think that you have a point about being able to convince people that it was necessary for us to...remove a person from our balloon...but isn't that covered in law anyways? 'Self Defense'? I mean, sure you would help..." she bit her lip, determined to stop. She should not antagonize someone who thought she should live. "Anyway, I'd like to add a few more points as to my usefulness. I can heal us if one of us gets ill. I'm also partially trained in psychiatry, so, if need be, I can calm us down in times of calamity."

Ginny then realized that, rudely, she had ignored Katie's arrival. "Well, like is the case of Emmalynn, you would be very helpful if we landed somewhere. If. Right now we don't have much for food..."
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PostSubject: Re: Hot Air Balloon: The Debate!   Sat Mar 15 2008, 11:01

Raistlin watched rather amused all others fighting for a stay in the balloon. He was a Treasure Hunter he lived for situations like that. Finally he decided to talk.

"Well, well m'dears. Being a treasure Hunter I experienced a lot of dangerous situations so not only I am your best choice of surviving as I also know how to cook, some medical knowledge, techniques of how to survive in different envrionments. Tell me what are you gonna do if a storm comes up?"

He waited a little to pull out a question which was definetly going to disturb the others.

"On another note. When we do finally come to a conclusion on how should be thrown out what happens if that person refuses? Are you willing to push that person yourselves? Are you willing to have that murder on your conscience. I had to kill before in my quests. My instinct of survivance is stronger than anything I am also willing to relieve you of your burden when we reach a conclusion if that person refuses to jump I'll make sure that person does."

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PostSubject: Re: Hot Air Balloon: The Debate!   Sat Mar 15 2008, 11:07

Katie was outrages at Ginny's response. "Well, Ginny, that's exactly th point. I could take some of the straw from this basket and make it into something edible. Same with the little possession we all do have." she finished.

Katie thought about what Raistlin had said. The did seem to have experience to carry them over and she wouldn't want to fight him in a hot air balloon. She would have to think more carefully about this.
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PostSubject: Re: Hot Air Balloon: The Debate!   Sat Mar 15 2008, 11:30

Listening to what Katie, the cook, said about herself and which points speaking for her the doctor Ginny added, Gemma was calm. Just the part where Ginny spoke about what she herself had said, she was growing nervous. Self-defence. She hadn't exactly thought about that, as her reasoning was a spur-of-the-moment thing, but not that she considered it, she knew that in this case law wouldn't help them, and that she told the others.

"Ginny, I value your agreement with my believes, just you seem to be mistaken about the extent to which the right of self-defence exceeds. We are, up to now, in no situation that is endangering our lives so much that we are rightfully killing somebody. And using euphemisms, like you did, may also not be too helpful. We will not only have removed somebody from the balloon, unless you can ensure that they won't be killed. We will all together have killed somebody, sacrificed him to save our lives while we could neither be sure that we would die nor was that person the one who would have been the reason for our possible death. That is never going to be self-defence in the opinion of a prosecutor or even judge!"


She waited for a reaction from the others, wondering how they, how she herself would feel about surviving only to be locked up soon after. For a lifetime, possibly.

"Furthermore, I well understand your reasoning, Katie, and yours even better, Raistlin. I would strongly disapprove of killing the both of you, therefore."
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PostSubject: Re: Hot Air Balloon: The Debate!   Sat Mar 15 2008, 11:41

"Katie, I dont think we should be destroying our basket-which is currently keeping us alive-to eat it would work too well..." she shot back, angry at having been spoken sharply at when she was ao anxious. She purposefully ignored what Rai was saying, she didn't really want to get too close to him. However, as she thought it over some more, it would be helpful to have him around. Maybe they could blame him for going crazy and tossing the person overboard.

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PostSubject: Re: Hot Air Balloon: The Debate!   Sat Mar 15 2008, 12:08

Katie was releived after hearing Gemma speak. So relieved in fact that she didn't retort to Ginny. Instad, she focused the attention away from herself and onto the Queen.

"If we all have valid reasons for staying, I think the Queen should go. When are we going to need a Queen to keep us a float?"
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PostSubject: Re: Hot Air Balloon: The Debate!   Sat Mar 15 2008, 12:43

Emmalynn, who had recovered from the shock of possibly being thrown off, nodded in agreement with Katie.

"We don't relly need a queen here. The rest of us have valid reasons for staying alive, but a queen, in my opinion, is dead wieght in this situation...." she said slowly.
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PostSubject: Re: Hot Air Balloon: The Debate!   Sat Mar 15 2008, 14:09

"I have to disagree with the both of you, Katie and Emmalynn. Of course a queen isn't of much help for us right here and now, but we can be sure that people will find out how she died. And while I might very well be able to prevent our being sentenced, I probably cannot prevent the people from the country she is Queen in from finding out. And having them start a war might be even worse than being locked up in jail, as war might kill all of us and the ones we love, at a point were we just happenend to be relieved to have survived and be reunited with them. Would you really want to risk that? I sure wouldn't, I still think that the Mathematician is least helpful to us. Look at her, sitting there, still doing something. Who's assuring us she isn't just trying to fool us into letting her stay alive? Who's assuring us that she can do anything about our situation even if she actually tries to calculate something useful?"

Gemma looked at the others questioningly, waiting for what they thought of this. She always seemed to talk a lot only to wait afterwards, but it kept her mind off the terrifying height she was exposed to in this tiny, frail basket.
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PostSubject: Re: Hot Air Balloon: The Debate!   Sat Mar 15 2008, 14:20

Emmalynn considered that and sighed.

"Okay, you have a point Gemma. On both the queen and the mathmetician. I've always hated math anyway... Never found it useful at all," Emmalynn agreed.
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PostSubject: Re: Hot Air Balloon: The Debate!   Sat Mar 15 2008, 15:13

Violet sat back, fearing her life."If I may say, and not get hurt, what do we need a cook for? I mean, we want reach food until we are saved. That maybe days." Violet said, hoping the cook wouldnt get mad."Thats just what i think. Seeing has i dont rule any of you all, I cant order none of you to do anything." And Violet walked back out of the group so they could decide
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PostSubject: Re: Hot Air Balloon: The Debate!   Sat Mar 15 2008, 15:38

Gemma smiled at Emmalynn, thankful for her affirmation. Next, she turned towards the queen, Violet, acknowledging her words and pondering them carefully. Then, she came to a decision and voiced her thoughts.

"Of course, it might take a while for us to find anything we could make something edible out of, but as she, the cook, said that she could make something out of anything, we might trust her for now and see whether anybody else is less important, so we can minimise the risk of making any mistake that is possible. I still think that the mathematician is least helpful, but considering your thoughts about the cook, well, what do you think about the maths solution for our problem? I'm staying with my opinion, and I, too, never found math useful, Emmalynn!"

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Violet nodded. "Well, do beleive we need a police officer because if we get into a fight, you can break it up. I dont think we need a midwife." Violet said.

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PostSubject: Re: Hot Air Balloon: The Debate!   Sat Mar 15 2008, 16:04

Emmalynn smiled. "It doesn't look like we have any pregnant people... or kids... so I think the midwife is pretty useless. And we already have a doctor anyway," she said apologetically.
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Stephy stood there and listened to what each had to say trying to think of something to add to why she should stay. Even though she had a paper and pencil she didnt have anything else to help her with her calcualtions. After sitting in the corner for a few hours with nothing written down Stephy gave up and placed her notebook and pencil back into her pockets. SHe then turned to the others and started to say whatever came to her as she tried to ensure her safty on the boat.

"I need to stay. People use math everyday. Math teachers tell thier students that everyday. You might not know it but your always using math. Math isn't useless" Stephy said hopeing that she wasnt starting to sound crazy. "There are many equations out there that helps you find just about anything. A lot of mysteries are figured out using math problems. How can you say Math isnt useful"

"I think that the cook isnt useful. What does a cook do, they just make food taste good. You can eat food even if it doesnt taste good. And also the Treasure Hunter can be thrown overboard too. He just said that if no one wanted to jump themselves he would do it himself. What makes you think he wont try to throw more people overboard just so that he could have more food for himself. We are afterall running low on supplies. I could figure out how much food we have to last us. That way we will know how much longer we can contiue on with this agrument." Stephy said trying to save her own life
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Violet agreed. "We do use math. We might need it later on to find out where to land. I was right about the cook, but the treasur hunter maybe needed later on. What about if we landed and we need to find shelter, with his experince, he could find us somewhere to stay." Violet said
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"By the sounds of things the treasur hunter would rather save himself than to help out the others. He could end up abandoning us once we find an island." Stephy said. "But if he would be willing not to abandon us then yes he would be a great choice to keep. I do agree that we don't need a housewife. Doctors can do just about everything a housewife can do"
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"Im postitive we will never need the Astrologer. What will the stars tell us. I think he shoudl go first." Violet said, knowing it sounded rude.
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"Depending on which star you are looking out you will be able to figure out which way is north or southt" Stephy said. "Knowing this could come in handy but I do agree we dont need an Astrologer because if we were to travel would we not travel by day instead of night?"
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"As I was saying ealier about the math. What if we do get the chance to land on land? We would need someone to caculate where and how well should land and having someone who knows math good would know how to do this. Caculation and wit" Violet said.
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Ginny had kept relatively quiet during all of this. "Um, your Majesty, you appear to be contradicitng yourself. You say we don't need the cook because it could be a while before we find land, so we don't need her to really make anything...but you say we need to keep the Mathematician because they'll get us to land and essentially some possible source of food. If we plan on landing this thing, we'll need all the people necessary to keep us alive there."

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"And why would we need you?" Violet siad, turning to Rai. "For all we know you could abonded us. And the cook said they could make food good. We have no stove or oven or fire to cook with and you simpley want to keep someone that can stuff cheese on a cracker?" Violet siad."Everyone uses math, rather you know it or not, and I say we should keep them for futher use."
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Katie decided it would be better to stay out of the drama Violet was causing. Instead she decided it would be best to try and defend her and the other valuble people with reasoned arguments.

"If you think about it, Rai can get the food and I could cook it. But that's only if we find land of course." Katie said, "The more pressing issue at the moment is who is 'weighing' us down. In my opinion that would be the queen or midwife."
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Violet raised an eyebrow."So you think a cook is more important then a queen? You have nothing to cook on and if you were gone, it wouldnt be news. Now with me dead, it would be. It would cause wars with who should be next in line, which countries they should trade with, and between your families for killing me." Violet said."And we have no need for a midwife. Whatever a midwife can do, a docotr can do." Violet added adn backed out.


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"I agree we dont really need a midwife. Is there anyone here who is going to be having a baby?" STephy said as she looked around the balloon for any hands.
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"Im not." Violet said.
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"I can assure you that I'm not." Ginny said with a nod. "And besides, even if I, or anyone else was going to, I could handle things adequately well, considering how we're not in a hospital."
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"Well i guess that means bye bye midwife?" Violet asked.

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Ginny nodded, "As someone who works quite closely with scientists, I agree with June. We need her here. She knows the properties of important substances that we may need." she smiled at June and said. "Nice that you're awake though, we could've thrown you off and you probably wouldn't have realized it until you hit the water."
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June smiled and laughed a little embarrassed. "True, very true." She turned to the others and said, "And I back Ginny. As a Doctor, her profession and mine are very closely connected and the research that some doctors do, have done, and that Ginny might one day do, can very well be called science as well. If you want to have a cure for a major disease one day, I strongly suggest that you keep Ginny on board."
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Elladora had been staring up at the sky for quite a while noe, listening to the ramblings of many others, she decided that now would be a good time to defend herself because they were talking about throwing people off.

"I'm useful," Elladora said, standing up. "At night, I can calculate which way we're traveling and find the bearing to take to get to a source of land using a simple mathematical equation. And during the day, I can tell time as well as navigatin us out of this predicament. Although I must say, we most certainly will have to throw someone out, or the balloon will run out of gas before we hit land."
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(wait i thought you did the horoscopes?isnt that what they do??im confused)

"I'm sorry dear midwife, but it seems you are one of the peolpe that would not be needed." Violet siad.
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"And I can help the scientists with thier mathmatical equations." Stephy said. "Once they have completed them I can duoble check to make sure that they are correct. We dont want to have any errors do we?"
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After much time of watching and assessing as each of the occupants argue their cases Kaylee decided to speak up.

"I have kept quiet and listened to all of your reasons thus far, but now I must make my own case." Taking a few deep breaths in and out she continued. "First off I am a Psychologist and I am important to keep alive because I help out and decipher peoples mental states. I should come in more than useful when it comes to keeping everyone aboard this vessel calm and in control of their emotions. I can also be useful in the decision as to whom we should expel the balloon in order to save the rest of us. Since after all we can't have one lunatic in our mists or it could disturb the mental states of everyone else involved."

After pausing for a couple of moments Kaylee continued to speak, "In my professional opinion I'm not seeing the importance of keeping the Queen here, we have the police for governance, we need all of the Doctors, midwifes and cooks if we do happen to reach a deserted island in the future. A mathematician can come in useful when it comes to figuring out the exact telemetry and how long the balloon will stay in the sky along with the weight conditions. I can see where the Treasure Hunter may come of some use, even if he does abandon us in the end, he is useful for the here and now of things. The astrologer is useful both in the sky and if we happen to land as they can calculate our exact coordinates according to the stars. The scientist are important because we may need them once we land to test chemicals in our food, or build radios to help us escape the deserted island later on. Everyone else that I've heard from up until now has some value to everyone else in this vessel once we land, other than you my dear queen."

Watching her point sink in she concluded her argument with, "Also my queen, in my professional opinion you seem to be the most unstable out of everyone aboard. Each individual has offered up concrete reasons as to why they need/should stay aboard this vessel where as you have only been pointing the finger at everyone else and why they shouldn't. I have yet to hear a good reason as to what importance you offer to the rest of us to keep you alive. Sure if we happen to land in a country you rule over, yes you would be useful. But on a deserted island or even a country that is hostile with your own you are useless and/or a hindrance to us all."
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Emmalynn nodded in agreeance ((Is that a word??)) with Kaylee. "I think we need to keep everyone you named except the midwife and the mathematician. Whaereas we may need some math on our... journey, we have a scientist, a doctor, an astrologer, and me, a carpenter. All of us have an understanding of math in an array of different categories. With the four of us combined, we probably know just as much as the mathematician," Emmalynn explained. She took a deep breath before continuing,

"And as for the midwife: We have a doctor whos is most likely perfectly capable of birthing a child on the uncanny occurence that one of us is to fall pregnant."
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Kaylee listened and thought over what Emmalynn had just said for several minutes before responding, "I can see to a point where you are coming from on the stance for the midwife, but what happens if something should happen to the Doctors? I say having more than enough Doctors and medically trained professionals is never a bad thing, especially when we don't know what the circumstances of our landing may be."

Stopping for a moment to gather her thoughts she continued, "Again I can see your point on the mathematician, but if the said mathematician happened to be Issac Newton? He was a human being of great importance who contributed many of the theorems that guide you in your work today, such as the conservation of momentum. Sure everyone has a basic knowledge of math but can you calculate the weight proportions along with the rate of our decline to understand how long we have before we hit the water? Even if you could I can promise you that the mathematician would have it calculated and figured out long before you could, plausibly saving most of our lives."

Thinking over her previous statements Kaylee also decided to add, "In no way am I saying that you as a carpenter aren't important so please don't perceive it that way. I am just trying to think and help everyone else think of the decision on a logical and rational basis.Thus helping everyone to think of the future not just the here and now. Sure a midwife or scientist may not be important to us in the here and now, but if we do end up landing on the said 'deserted island' they my end up becoming an integral part of our survival, as would you and I."
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PostSubject: Re: Hot Air Balloon: The Debate!   Wed Mar 19 2008, 23:02

"I think we could chuck off the historian," Elladora said after much thought and consideration. "He'd only be important if we find an inhabited island. In which case, we could chuck off the teacher. But we'll most likely need one or the other."
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PostSubject: Re: Hot Air Balloon: The Debate!   Wed Mar 19 2008, 23:04

(have we thrown the midwife off yet. i really havent been reading)

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PostSubject: Re: Hot Air Balloon: The Debate!   Wed Mar 19 2008, 23:35

"I don't think chucking off the historian sounds like to bad of an idea. If we still have the teacher, along with the very well educated people such as myself then I think we should be fine." Kaylee stated after hearing Elladoras opinion. "While were at it why don't we discuss the musician? In all honestly what good does a musician do us in the hear and now and in future aspects? Sure music is nice, but it is not integral to our survival." As she said this Kaylee shook her head back and forth saying no. " Plus I'm pretty sure that there is someone else aboard this vessel that possesses some sort of musical talent. In any aspect my votes at the moment are going for The Queen, The Historian and The Musician."
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PostSubject: Re: Hot Air Balloon: The Debate!   Wed Mar 19 2008, 23:39

Violet head snapped up." Wait so the midwife can stay, but I go. I do have reason here. You on the other hand, do not. A Psychologist, as you said, helps the mental state of mind. You would be no use if you were to go mental, now would you?" Violet asked.
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PostSubject: Re: Hot Air Balloon: The Debate!   Thu Mar 20 2008, 00:09

Smiling slightly at the Queens questioning of her mental state Kaylee rebutted with, "Ah my dear Queen, this is my exact point. You have given no substantial reason as to why all of the people you are pointing fingers at should go. Where as every one of my reasonings has made logical sense, so you questioning my mental state is well, just ridiculous. I would also like to point out that just about everything you have said has been based merely off of your need for self preservation. I do not blame you one bit for acting off of this need, as it is one of the most powerful human instincts."

Returning herself to her naturally calm demeanor she continued with, "Please understand that I am not by any means trying to argue with you. I am just doing my job and thinking of things from a rational standpoint, and in the process trying to make you to do the same. All I really need from you is to make a logical and/or rational point as to why we need to keep you aboard this vessel and I will drop my case against you. I will even give you a question to think about while giving your response. What mental or physical skill can you offer to the group if we do end up on a deserted island somewhere? Because dear Queen you need to remember that where ever this vessel may land it may not be any where that your rule makes a difference."
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